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- The Minutes below should be considered a Rough Draft - 4/02/92 Megan
-
- Current Meeting Report Reported by Peter Kirstein/UCL
-
- The Chair repeated that for the ODA WG, some papers are available in an
- electronic form on the UCL-CS info-server: "info-server@cs.ucl.ac.uk"
-
- The documents are accessed by standard message systems, giving a message
- body of the form:
-
- request:ietf-osi-oda
- topic:xxxx
-
- where xxxx is the name of the document required.
-
- A number of documents are available in the info-server - all in text form.
- Many of the documents are also stored in ODA/ODIF format. The list of
- documents currently in the collection is listed in a document called INDEX.
-
- The latest document defining the current status is [1] below. It is
- available on the info-server. It gives details about the current
- implementations available for the Pilot. These are listed below:
-
- PRODUCT Supplier Status Product Availability Source
- SLATE/ODA V1.2 BBN/UCL OK Slate-yes Now UCL
- Word-for-Windows/ODA v3 Bull OK Yes 4/1 Bull
- DECWRITE/ODA DEC OK Yes Now DEC
- Global View Xerox Testing Yes Now Xerox
-
- UCL started shipping SLATE/ODA v1.2 in February 1992; this is based on
- SLATE v1.2. Because of the late shipment, few have had a chance to test
- it. BBN is planning to bring out V2 of SLATE during the second quarter of
- 1992; we expect SLATE/ODA v2 to be ready for shipping by the end of that
- quarter. The Bull product is being released for shipping on 4/1; UCL has
- tested it for conformity. The DEC product is available now, and has been
- tested for conformity; no other site had tried a recent version of that
- software. The Xerox product was delivered to UCL only just before the
- meeting. It is still being tested for interoperability by UCL.
-
- At earlier meetings, it had been hoped that a WORDPERFECT/ODA system from
- University Politechnic of Catalonia would become available. Unfortunately
- for two reasons this now seems less likely. UCL tested it during the
- summer of 1991, and it was found non-conformant in a number of ways; no
- new version has been received since. Second, there seemed to be some
- contractual problems in getting that version used in the Pilot, because it
- included some software from ICL - which UPC had not had permission to
- release for the Pilot. Earlier UPC had stated that they intended to have
- software entirely of their own available for the summer of 1992 - but
- nothing has been heard further from them on that subject; the Chairman
- could only assume that the WORDPERFECT software could not become available
- for a Pilot in the near future.
-
- During the discussion, it became clear that there was a requirement to use
- a large number of National characters; for instance support for the
- specific Nordic ones were requested by one participant, and of Greek ones
- by another. It was considered desirable to use character set switching
- according to ISO 8859/4 in the long term; mention was made also of ISO
- 10041. Neither the Bull nor BBN implementations support such characters;
- no information was available on the DEC or Xerox ones.
-
- A number of additions to the Q112 profile of the Standard are under
- discussion; one of these is tables. If this became standardised, it is
- probable that several of the implementations would include it shortly.
-
- A number of small pilots were mentioned - a Nordic one, one based on Mitre,
- one organised by UCL in Europe, and a small one at NASA-Ames. There was
- interest in broader pilots. The Chair promised to set up a list of ODA and
- normal mailboxes. This list will be available from ietf-osi-oda, and the
- interested parties will be requested to provide their details to the Chair.
-
- So far, most use of the systems were using X.400 for transport. Interest
- was expressed in working with the Multi-media Mail format (MIME); this is
- in accordance with the Charter, since this is the output of the SMTPEXT
- group. The chairman mentioned that it had already been assured that ODA
- was a recognised Content Type in MIME, and he promised to investigate when
- there could be integration of MIME with some of the ODA products. There
- is already a MIME implementation available to UCL, and he hopes to add it
- to the UCL PP mail system during the next quarter.
-
- It was expected that there would be substantial experience with the Pilot
- prior to the next meeting which would take place during the July IETF
- meeting in Boston.
-
- Reference
-
- 1. D. Sadok et al: The ODA Document Convertors, UCL Internal Report No 2,
- Version 3, March 1992.
-
-
- Attendees
-
- Harald Alvestrand harald.alvestrand@delab.sintef.no
- Dave Crocker dcrocker@mordor.stanford.edu
- kathy Dodd kathy@mitre.org
- Lew Jenkins lew@premenos.sf.ca.us
- Peter Kirstein kirstein@cs.ucl.ac.uk
- Jim Knowles jknowles@trident.arc.nasa.gov
- Dan Molinelli molin@trw.com
- Brien Wheeler blw@mitre.org
- Linda Winkler lwinkler@anl.gov
- Peter Yee yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov
-
- People So Far Receiving SLATE/ODA from UCL
-
- FIRST NAME SURNAME ORGANISATION CITY COUNTRY
- Velu Sinhu OKIDATA Framingham, Mass USA
- Jim Knowles NASA-AMES Mountain View, CA USA
- Mark Stansfield Paisley Coll Paisley Scotland
- Mark Savela Telecom Res Otakaari Finland
- Erik Lillevold NTRA Kjeller Norway
- Encarna Pastor U. Pol. Madrid Madrid Spain
- Knut Holm SINTEF Trondheim Norway
- Trevor Hales CSIRO Carlton, Vic Australia
- Naresh Kumar Touch Com Campbell, CA USA
- Andrew Macpherson BNR-Europe Harlow, Essex UK
- Paul Kennedy DEC Galway Ireland
-